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Nick POPE
« le: 13 février 2008 à 10:44:27 »

Bonjour,

J'ai écouté mardi 12 février l'interview de Nick Pope (datant de mars 2007), l'ancien responsable de la cellule OVNI au MOD britannique.

Je ne connaissais pas le personnage et j'ai été plutôt séduit par son discours. Son évocation de l'affaire de Rendlesham/Woodbridge était intéressante.

On a tout de même senti qu'il restait très prudent voire qu'il se freinait un peu. Sans doute était-il encore lié moralement (ou plus) à son ancienne fonction gouvernementale.

J'ai surtout en mémoire une de ses dernières phrases : "L'hypothèse E.T. n'est pas à écarter mais il n'y a pas de preuves définitives." J'ai trouvé cela un chouia décevant de la part d'un homme ayant forcément été au contact de dossiers ultra brulants. A mon avis il n'a pas tout dit et est  resté très consensuel, se contentant que de petites infos croustillantes comme cette visite soudaine du général Gabriel (OTAN) sur la base de Woodbridge en 1980.

ps : pardon s'il y a déjà un topic sur Nick Pope mais je ne l'ai pas vu.
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Nick Pope & la chasse aux Ovnis
« Réponse #1 le: 28 janvier 2009 à 17:29:57 »

[justify]Nick Pope était interviewé hier sur Fox News, affirmant pour la première fois : "Des pilotes de la RAF ont essayé d'abattre des Ovnis, suivant en celà une directive top-secret du gouvernement britannique."

Il a travaillé 25 ans au Ministère de la Défense (MoD), dont 3 ans pour le bureau Ovni, et a révélé dans quelles conditions des avions de chasse étaient lancés contre des objets.

En plusieurs occasions, les pilotes de la Royal Air Force avaient tiré sur ces engins : "L’ordre avait été donné de les abattre, mais ce fut chaque fois sans résultat."

Nick Pope a raconté que les protocoles d’engagement avaient été déterminés après que des dizaines de rencontres rapprochées se soient produites dans l’espace aérien britannique.

Les attaques de la RAF contre des Ovnis n’étaient pas systématiques, "mais elles étaient décidées dès que la présence d’un objet pouvait sembler représenter une menace. Nous avons alors eu recours à des actions radicales. Il y avait au sein du MoD un groupe résolu à 'descendre un de ces appareils, pour solutionner le problème d'une manière ou d'une autre'."

En duplex de Londres, Nick Pope s’est exprimé sur un ton déterminé, relativement offensif, qu’on lui connaissait peu. Les incidents qu'il rapporte concernent les années 80.

Selon lui, toutes les tentatives de la RAF contre ces engins ont été gardées secrètes : "Le public ne sera pas tenu informé, à moins que ça se passe dans une région très peuplée.."

"Mais je pense que nous parviendrons à descendre un de ces engins. Nous développons des armes de plus en plus sophistiquées."

Mr Pope a également écarté les affirmations du MoD selon lesquelles les Ovnis ne représentent aucun danger pour les populations", en ajoutant : "Je crois bien que c'est une phrase que j'avais moi-même écrite dans les années 90."

"Ils cherchent à dénigrer le phénomène, en ironisant sur les soucoupes volantes et les petits hommes verts. Mais des députés et des ministres, de même que des responsables du MoD, pensent que les Ovnis sont réels."

The Telegraph a souhaité conduire sa propre interview de l'ancien responsable.

Nick Pope raconte que selon des dizaines de témoins crédibles, on a frôlé des quantités d'incidents, impliquant des avions, des hélicoptères de la police et des jets de la RAF. "Ces affaires sont hautement classifiées, et personne n'accepte de les évoquer pour des raisons évidentes de sécurité intérieure. Le pays entretient en permanence depuis la guerre froide et particulièrement le 11 Septembre, des avions de chasse prêts à décoller. En plusieurs occasions, et pas seulement en Angleterre, ces chasseurs ont été mobilisés pour intercepter des engins inconnus qui avaient été repérés sur nos radars."

Sollicité par la presse, un porte-parole du MoD s'est refusé à tous commentaires.[/justify]

The Telegraph  -  Fox News

Les Videos sur Ovnis-USA
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« Réponse #2 le: 29 janvier 2009 à 00:25:52 »

merci

"En duplex de Londres, Nick Pope s’est exprimé sur un ton déterminé, relativement offensif, qu’on lui connaissait peu. Les incidents qu'il rapporte concernent les années 80."

ses declarations recentes sur le cas des eoliennes m'avait fait dire que je pensais qu'il ne croyait pas aux ovnis

peut etre est ce que d'autres ont eut les memes reactions que moi

au dela sa position doit etre complexe

il serit peut etre temps que je me penche sur les cas mods recents

l'annee 2007 2008 et l'annee 2009 est egalement bien partie pour etre un grand cru de l'ufologie anglaise

les cas ne faiblissent pas

et meme en *ecartant confusions et thai lanternes du 1er janvier il y a manifestement quelque chose

je remarque un phenomene nouveau en ce debut 2009, les ovnis suivent la cote sud de l'angleterre et ca c'est vraiment pas habituel

l'ecosse est egalement tres survolee en ce debut d'annee ce qui n'est pasnon plus habituel

la divulgation estcomplexe mais en fait je pense que nous allaons entrer dans des periodes tres troublees, le calme va se terminer

la vraie crise s'installe en effet peu a peu et les tensions avec

signes des temps aussi il ya tres peu de cas mufon ces derniers temps, les gens etantr plmus preoccuppes par la crise que par les ovnis

mais la pennsylvanie est tres visitee aussi

courage nick pope... ces efforts seront utiles



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« Réponse #3 le: 30 janvier 2009 à 09:33:20 »

Bonjour les amis,
Pour commencer, un petit mot d'amitié et de félicitation pour le site ovnis-usa.com qui diffuse à mon sens une actualité de pointe, particulièrement intense ces jours-ci. Merci Ddp pour ta persévérance et ton travail quotidien.

Concernant Nick Pope, j'ai avancé un peu les traductions des vidéos que tu as mis en ligne et qui peuvent être consultées ici.http://www.federation-airplane.eu/site/fr/nouvelles/initiatives_publiques/suite.php?newsid=137 [modération : page non trouvée]

Si on peut encore les améliorer, svp n'hésitez pas à le faire remarquer!!!
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« Réponse #4 le: 30 janvier 2009 à 22:02:19 »

Merci Mrib  pour la traduction et heureux de ton passage,

Au plaisir

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Re : Nick Pope & la chasse aux Ovnis
« Réponse #5 le: 30 janvier 2009 à 22:44:33 »

@anakin_neo
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je remarque un phenomene nouveau en ce debut 2009, les ovnis suivent la cote sud de l'angleterre et ca c'est vraiment pas habituel

l'ecosse est egalement tres survolee en ce debut d'annee ce qui n'est pasnon plus habituel "

J'ai remarqué que tu relevais souvent les zones survolées que ce soit aux USA en Angleterre ou ailleurs. En as tu déduit un shémas général ?
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« Réponse #6 le: 08 février 2009 à 00:25:30 »

pas encore je travaille

voici les cas tels que donnes par le mod en 2008

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et les cas mod avec ceux que j'ai collecte sur 2008

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les estuaires sont une poerte d'entree evidente, le mod ne liste poas les cas de louth !! et pas mal de cas mod sont plus que deficients

audela il existe des hot posts (plus de quatre cas/an)

par exemple leeds ou Scarborough


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« Réponse #7 le: 08 février 2009 à 00:31:59 »

tiens au fait les ovnis ca n'existe pas

petit zoom sur une partie du monde seulement

et que pour 2008

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« Réponse #8 le: 08 février 2009 à 09:12:46 »

anakin_nEo, pourquoi ces deux couleurs différentes (jaune, rouge) sur les punaises? Est-ce une différence entre certaines observations du genre RR1, RR2, etc, ou est-ce purement esthétique? Bonne journée à toi et à tous, Herveboy
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« Réponse #9 le: 08 février 2009 à 19:16:49 »

non ce sont les cas recences par moi sur  l'internet au sens tres large du terme et les cas recences par le mod

je voulais verifier que le mod ne fournissait pas de donnees truquees

en superposant les deux couches on constate qu'il ya en gros bonne correspondance et meme complementarite  de sorte que finalement les donnees mod me paraissent fiables

les cas 2008 dumod ne sont donc qu'une partie des cas totaux..

depuis 2006 le nombre de cas anglais est tres eleve

pourla suite il est possible de mettre des icones specialisees selon les cas, j'etudie la question pour un essai

mais il est deja possible de retravailler le fichier kmz

au dela le classement rr2 rr3 rr1 etc etc ne me satisfait pas completement il est trop rigide et ne temoigne pas des typologies suffisamment

mais c'ets un gros boulot que de reclasser

la plupart des sites font d'ailleurs des collectes ciblees , waterufo ou les cas autos, ou les cas radars, ou telle annee... ou les rr3 uniquement

humanoid report d'Albert Rosales fait ce releve depuis des annees

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« Réponse #10 le: 08 février 2009 à 22:03:16 »

ok, merci, bon boulot en tous cas!
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« Réponse #11 le: 26 mai 2009 à 06:57:57 »

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Nick Pope

"Nick" Pope naît en 1965. Il vit à Londres (Angleterre). Après ses études, il occupe divers emplois temporaires avec de rejoindre le MoD en 1985. A été au coeur de la recherche sur les OVNI pendant 4 ans, de 1991 à 1994, a fait sensation en déclarant :

Citation de Nick Pope
"Je crois aux extraterrestres", et en publiant un livre "Open Skies, Closed Minds", (Ciel ouvert, esprits fermés). Il a eu accès à des informations top-secrètes et les nombreux cas d'observations sans explications rationnelles dont il a eu connaissance l'ont convaincu. Ses supérieurs hiérarchiques étaient furieux mais M. Nick Pope ne s'est pas rétracté.[/center]
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« Réponse #12 le: 26 mai 2009 à 18:53:00 »

Ses supérieurs hiérarchiques étaient furieux

Ah ? Une citation précise ?
Sans quoi ce n'est qu'une opinion.
Dans un "portrait", comme pour un article Wikipedia,
on évite les affirmations sans sources.
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« Réponse #13 le: 10 août 2009 à 12:27:25 »


Je me suis permis de déplacer et de regrouper deux fils parlant de Nick Pope dans cette section Portrait étant donné qu'il n'y était pas.

Voici un nouvel article concernant ce personnage :

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Interview With The Expert On The Inexplicable


Expert for the inexplicable Pope told us about his UFO Project with the Defence Ministry and research results on aliens.


Photo:Nick Pope
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Published: August 10, 2009 11:47h

More and more UFO sightings are recorded every year, while information about unusually shaped crafts keeps coming in from all corners of the world. Some witnesses claim they even encountered human-like beings and talked to them.

The British Defence Ministry announced that the year 2008 noted twice as more UFO sightings than the year before. A question rises: is an “alien invasion” in question or have UFOs simply stopped being a taboo subject? We asked Nick Pope about the matter, famous UFO expert, who researched these occurrences at the British Defence Ministry. After leaving the department, Pope continued researching UFOs and ventured out for new challenges. He became the world`s leading expert on the “inexplicable”.

He has published several papers like ´Open Skies, Closed Minds, ´The Uninvited´ or ´You Cant't Tell the People´ and he has written science-fiction stories ´Operation Thunder Child´ and ´Operation Lighting Strike´.

He told us how he started working on the UFO Project, revealing some of the details from his research.

Could you please describe how you started working on the UFO Project?

I joined the Ministry of Defence in 1985. At the time, the policy was to move people every 2 or 3 years - either on level transfer or promotion - so that everybody gained experience in a wide range of different jobs: policy, operations, personnel, finance, etc. I'd done 2 or 3 different jobs and prior to taking up my post on the UFO project I was working in a division called Secretariat (Air Staff) and had been seconded into the Air Force Operations Room in the Joint Operations Centre. I worked there in the run-up to the first Gulf War, during the war itself, and in the aftermath of the conflict. I was a briefer, preparing material for the key daily briefings to Ministers and the Service Chiefs. My job was to collect raw data about RAF operations, and pick out the key things that senior personnel needed to know: details of any casualties and losses, targets attacked, battle damage assessment, etc. It was an interesting and very high-tempo job. It was while working there that I was approached and asked whether, after I was released from duties in the Joint Operations Centre, I would like to run the UFO project, which was embedded in another part of Secretariat(Air Staff). I accepted the invitation. So, in a sense, I was headhunted.

Did you believe that aliens visited the Earth before this?

I knew little about the subject and I certainly had no belief in extraterrestrials. So while I was open-minded in all my investigations, my start point was broadly sceptical.

Have you ever seen a UFO?

No. Sadly, I haven't.

Why did you decide to leave the UFO Project and the Ministry of Defence?

After having done the job for 3 years I was promoted and moved to another post at a higher grade. There's certainly no truth to the rumour that I was moved because I was getting too close to the truth, as some conspiracy theorists allege. I left the MoD in November 2006 after a 21 year career. I'd passed the Assessment and Development Centre, so could have applied for a post at B2 level (formerly known as Grade 7 and Principal), but had already deputised extensively at this grade, so decided it was an appropriate time to move on to fresh challenges outside the Department.

The year 2008 noted twice as more UFO sightings than the year before, British Defence Ministry announced. In your opinion, do the media cover more claims of persons who encountered UFOs, have UFOs stopped being a taboo subject or has the actual number of UFO visits increased?

Increasing numbers of UFO sightings are being reported in the UK. Here are the Ministry of Defence figures (which only tell part of the story, as many people don't report their sightings to the MoD):

2006: 97

2007: 135

2008: 285

2009 (first 6 months): 231

It's difficult to draw firm conclusions from this. It may mean that the number of sightings is increasing. However, all this takes place against the background of the release of the MoD's UFO files. This ongoing initiative is generating massive media coverage and public interest, so this may mean that people who would previously not have reported a UFO sighting (through fear of not being believed or being ridiculed) may now be more inclined to make a report. So, to summarise, we don't really know if more UFOs are being seen, or whether it's the case that a higher proportion of UFO sightings are being reported. There's also the fact that Chinese lanterns are increasingly popular in the UK and are often being reported as UFOs.

What is your take on the theory that aliens constructed the pyramids?

I don't believe this. The ancient Egyptians were skilled mathematicians and engineers. Additionally, they devoted a substantial part of their resources on this project.

What do you think of Erich von Daniken`s theory about gods who came down from the sky, i.e. that the gods ancient civilisations believed in were aliens?

Erich von Daniken has highlighted many genuine mysteries from our past. However, I'm not convinced that some of the gods of our history were extraterrestrial visitors. Much has been made of images of strange creatures in cave drawings, paintings, sculptures, etc. However, it's possible that these may not relate to physical entities that were seen, as opposed to visions experienced during shamanic trances.

What do is your view on David Icke`s theory about reptiles? Is there a chance of a creature from outer space becoming infiltrated in the human society? Are there testimonies of people who claim they have conversed with humanoid creatures from space?

There's an old saying in the intelligence community, when analysing information that can't be verified: "interesting, if true". That's pretty much all I can say about such theories.

The Grays are the most famous aliens – according to some, they are fallen angels who performed genetic experiments on humans. What is your position on the matter?

Again, this is another "interesting, if true".

What is your opinion about various drawings in caves, which are several thousands of years old and depict crafts, planes and machines? Is it possible that developed civilisations existed several thousands of years ago on Earth?

While some images do look a little similar to modern machines, this could be a coincidence. And again, these images may be representations of things seen in shamanic trances, as opposed to things that were actually witnessed in a physical way.

What about crop circles? Which answers has your research offered?

Some of the small, single circles (and that's where the phenomenon started) may be attributable to some form of meteorological phenomenon such as a whirlwind or wind vortex. As for the more complex ones - the so-called pictograms - there's no doubt in my mind that most of them are made by people. I've seen it done. Some of the people involved in this are highly skilled and motivated, plan the formations meticulously, well in advance, and split the work between several people. Some people call them hoaxers but many of the people involved see themselves as conceptual artists. Do I completely rule out a more exotic explanation? No. In my line of work, I tried never to rule anything out altogether, and always tried to keep an open mind.

You also investigated ghosts. What is your personal position on this occurrence?

Ghosts have been seen at numerous current or former military bases, with three of the most haunted sites being Devonport Naval Base, Priddy's Hard Armaments Depot in Gosport and Coalhouse Fort in East Tilbury, which was used as a wartime Royal Navy base. There are very detailed stories surrounding many of the ghost sightings, often linking them with executions, or violent deaths in munitions explosions and aircraft crashes. Many classic signs associated with hauntings were present in these cases, including unexplained cold spots and guard dogs growling - with their hackles rising - at the locations concerned. It's not just military bases. Ghosts have also been seen in MoD buildings in London. The sixth floor of Metropole Building (a former hotel requisitioned by the Ministry of Munitions in 1916) is reputedly haunted by the ghost of a chambermaid who was murdered in the hotel and whose body was hidden in a cupboard. Even MoD Main Building is supposedly haunted. Built on the site of the old Whitehall Palace, which dates from the 12th century, the basement still contains an old Tudor wine cellar dating from 1529. The wine cellar is now used for social functions, but I've spoken to some of the security guards who patrol the building at night, and they tell me they've seen ghosts in that area of the building. One guard told me that he'd seen what he presumed to be an intruder walk across the corridor from one room to another. He issued a challenge but on reaching the spot where the figure had been seen, found there were no doors - the figure had apparently walked through the walls. I really don't know what to think about ghost sightings.

Is your research based solely on depositions of witnesses who claim they have encountered odd occurrences or do you have material evidence, like the remains of a flying craft?

My government research was based on witness testimony. In some cases this was backed up by radar data or by photos and videos that MoD's technical experts analysed. I have never seen any material that is alleged to be extraterrestrial in origin. I am convinced that the British government possesses no such material.

What is your opinion on abductions and mysterious disappearances? Has your research yielded any results on the matter? Are the Bermuda Triangle plane disappearances connected with the aliens somehow?

I've looked into around 100 cases where people claim to have had alien abduction experiences. The few scientific studies done have found no evidence of any psychopathology in the abductees - they’re not mad. Furthermore, in one experiment it was shown that abductees exhibited physical symptoms (e.g. increased perspiration and heart rate) when recalling their experiences, when a control group asked to retell a fictitious but traumatic account displayed none. While the scientists who undertook the experiment didn't believe these people had physically been taken into spaceships, they thought they believed they'd had these experiences - the abductees weren't lying. I'm sceptical about the Bermuda Triangle. This area of the world is an area with extreme weather conditions that probably account for the loss of ships and aircraft there.

According to certain theories, people will cross over to a higher level of consciousness in 2012, when the Mayan calendar ends. According to other theories, the aliens will come, while some even say it will be the end of the world. How do you feel about these theories?

Many people are now linking ufology to the 2012 end of the Mayan calendar, some speculating that this will involve the end of the world (perhaps due to the return of Nibiru/Planet X), some suggesting an alien invasion, others suggesting a transition to a higher state of consciousness. Some people are even linking this to New World Order conspiracy theories, suggesting that a 'false flag' alien invasion will be staged. There are so many different theories. I'm sceptical about all of this and suspect that 2012 will pass without incident, just as happened with all such prophesies previously, such as the idea that the world would end in 1999, as Nostradamus predicted.

What would you say to the theory that creatures from outer space lived in Atlantis and Lamuria, whose civilisations were more developed than our own?

Another "interesting, if true", I'm afraid. Until some solid evidence is presented, this is speculation.

Are you familiar with the Cassiopaean experiment?

Yes, a little. The problem with any channeled information is that even if the channeler is being sincere, there's no real way to be sure where the information comes from. Nor is there any way of validating it.

You defended the official position of the American government regarding 9/11. In your opinion, is there any chance of this being an inside job? What about the explosives found among the ruins around the collapsed WTC towers and the mysterious collapse of WTC7?

At the time of 9/11, I was in a security-related job at the MoD. Because of this, when I left the Department I was asked by some people to look into the various 9/11 conspiracy theories. I did this in an even-handed way. I watched Loose Change, looked at various websites and attended lectures by Calum Douglas and Gordon Ross. I met and discussed the issue with Tim Sparke, Ian Henshall and Annie Machon.  Then I read the 9/11 Commission Report from cover to cover (something very few people in the 9/11 truth movement have done). I looked at the Popular Mechanics article on the conspiracy theories and read the material on the State Department website. I concluded that the conspiracy theories were unfounded. Bottom line: I'm certain 9/11 was a terrorist attack, not an 'inside job' and not an attack that was "allowed to happen". That said, there were clear failures in the US intelligence community (e.g. in areas such as information-sharing between various agencies), which could have done more to prevent the attacks. There were also failures in the US response on the day. These points have been acknowledged in the 9/11 Commission Report and the authorities have done their best to learn lessons from the terrible events of 9/11.

Some blogs and forums include posts according to which you are still working for the Defence Ministry and your mission is to spread misinformation about UFOs. How would you comment on this?

While I still have many friends at the MoD and return there from time to time, for social functions, I'm certainly not still working for the government. However, if people genuinely think this is true, they're unlikely to believe my denial.



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Hoaxes, theories and seances...but no little green men


12:30pm Friday 4th September 2009
By Victoria Ashford »


Nick Pope has been dubbed the British Fox Mulder


Forget little green men from Mars, the Weird ’09 conference in Warminster attempted to sort the facts from the folklore for both sceptics and paranormal enthusiasts.

The first day of the first UFO event in Warminster of its kind, left visitors to the town – albeit only the Earthling kind – with plenty to think about.

A sky watch at Cradle Hill in Warminster on Saturday, August 29 followed an impressive schedule of speakers, featuring some of the best-loved and most admired experts in the paranormal field.

Among those speaking at the Athenaeum Centre in High Street was Nick Pope, a former UFO investigator employed by the MoD to research sightings across the country – earning him the title of Britain’s real-life Fox Mulder.

His audience included Robert Moore, from Somerset, who has been investigating UFOs across the country since 1980. He became interested in the subject after reading about former Wiltshire Times reporter Arthur Shuttlewood, who first highlighted the mystery of the Warminster Thing.

It captured the public imagination in the 1960s after reports of noises and unexplained objects in the skies brought thousands of enthusiasts flocking to the town.

Mr Moore said: “I liked Kevin Goodman as a speaker. I thought it was a very informative speech in the way he presented the background of the Warminster Thing and his perspective on his own experiences.

“This conference is about connecting with people and seeing what they think on the subject.”

Speaker Kevin Goodman shared his knowledge and research on Mr Shuttlewood.

He said Warminster is reticent about its UFO past. “We are really proud of what we have achieved for the first event and we hope to make it a regular thing,” he said.

“If there is someone who leaves here and thinks ‘maybe there is something out there’, then we have done our job, although we are not trying to convert people, we are just trying to present all of the arguments.”

While some speakers argued UFO sightings are caused by extra-terrestrial life, others said whatever the cause, the unidentified flying objects are, at their most simplest and concerning level, a potential terrorist opportunity.

“Airline pilots, police officers and radar operators are among the many witnesses, according to recent Government reports discussed at the two-day conference.

Claire Williams, 26, travelled from Swansea with friend Sarah Heaton, 26. Both have a lifelong interest in the paranormal.

Miss Williams said: “I’m a bit geeky really. I like Star Trek and things like that and I guess everybody has a feeling that we are not the only ones here. There must be something out there in space.

“We know about a lot of the things being discussed here but to hear other people’s experiences is amazing.”

*An alien contactee, three apparent hoaxes at the skywatch on Cradle Hill and a seance added to the excitement of the final day of the Weird 09 conference.

Organiser Chris Williams said: “The weekend was a fantastic success. I have had many emails over the last couple of days asking when the next one is going to be but I’m still recovering from this one.”

Around 70 people turned out for the skywatch on Cradle Hill on Saturday night where three hoaxes, including a couple of lanterns and a search beam from the military base, were spotted.

Mr Williams said: “It was quite nice really for people to have something to watch.

“People think we are gullible but serious researchers are not really taken in by hoaxes that people put up nowadays.”

Another of Sunday’s highlights was Mike Oram, who spoke about his contact with beings from outer space, as well as his living in Warminster and sky watching with Arthur Shuttlewood, who raised the profile of UFO sightings in the town in the 1960s and 1970s.

“I first came down in 1969 and used to come down almost every weekend. It was a brilliant time to be in Warminster,” he said. “I used to go up on Cradle Hill in the winter time, nothing would stop me. I would be up there in the wind and rain and you could almost guarantee that Arthur would be up there.”

A key part of Mr Oram’s speech covered two hours of ‘missing time’ he experienced in notorious UFO hotspot Area 51 in Nevada in 2004. He also revealed his personal contact with ‘Tellos’ his ‘space brother’ who, he says, travels from somewhere in the far regions of the galaxy to make contact.


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