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[Nemo492]

L'autre informateur qui s'est manifesté aujourd'hui,
prétend qu'il lui suffit de connaître le numéro tout en haut, et il nous dit où ça se trouve.
Un retour en arrière de quelques mois, et on repart en marche avant.
11August lui a proposé D-103 et quelques variantes...
C'est un pro de la pose de lignes..
Il confirme que le cable descendant doit faire 4Kv, donc destiné aux usages "courants".. habituels.

[Nemo492]

Un fil pour reproduire quelques emails parmi des centaines,
qui ne fournissent pas vraiment des pistes, mais témoignent de l'ambiance
et de la bonne volonté de ceux qui ont suivi les prestations des détectives..

[Nemo492]

I'm an ex-Bell South employee. I can't be sure, but the bottom wire appears to be what tthe industry called "Rural wire" This was used in rural areas where economics didn't warrant cable. But there is a phone cable terminal visible, so,if it is rural wire, it is the beginning of the run. Ask some older phonemen in your search area if there is any rural wire left in the area, and that is where I would search.Mainly ask Repairmen and Cable repairmen.They would be most familiar with the term and whether it still exists in the system.

[Nemo492]

TK, I am a retired Bell South employee and I have made some observations regarding the pole in the photo which may or may not be of relevance.
 
The wire on the bottom which extends to the right appears to me to be what was called "rural wire". It was insulated, twisted pairs of wire of about 16 gauge wrapped around a solid support strandwire in pairs of 6,12,and sometimes 16 and 24, without an outer sheath. This caused the bundled pairs to appear "lumpy" from the ground, or when viewed along the length of the wire. Also, the connections to this wire was made by use of a "bisket" type bakelite connector about the size of a sectioned tennis ball, like the three in the photo. These were then connected via separate "block wires" to a coil protected terminal in the shape of a rectangular box exactly like the one in the photo. This then supplied dialtone through a standard copper cable which fed the rectangular box from a splice case where the cable from the box was connected to the cable from the central office. ALL of this is evident in this photo. I worked briefly for a cable company after my retirement, and I do not see any CATV cable in the photo. What appears to be CATV, I believe, is actually the rural wire. When it was installed properly, from the ground it might be mistaken for CATV due to the "soft"curves it made when it changed direction.
 
I also see two telephone drop wires,the wires that appear above what I am calling rural wire (which, though mostly used in rural areas was sometimes used in low income urban areas, in which case, we called it "urban" wire, for some reason.). This could be standard house drop, or what is called "C-wire", a hardier, hard covered heavier gauge wire, also used in rural areas. From it's very straight appearance, I believe this is what it is.
 
Lastly, the pole is stepped, not done much anymore. The lowest two items on the pole, other than the phone cable running down the face of the pole from the splicecase, are the steps, hammered into the pole at some point to aid the technician in climbing. Usually this was done at 180 degrees from each other, but these are 90 degrees from each other. This may mean that this is a larger than average pole, where a 180 degree spread would have meant difficulty climbing near the base of the pole. Two steps are visible. Possibly four.
 
Neither rural wire nor C-wire are used much anymore, but might still be around in a very rural area with little ,if any, development. I would try to find a local telephone cable repairman or repair technician (two different things) with at least 30 years service who knows what these items are, and go from there. You're looking for a rural house or two,(one house may have two lines) fed by C-wire ,possibly at or near the end of a cable run of less than 200 pairs, with a stepped pole and , if my rural wire theory is right, no CATV in the air(but the CATV could be buried). If my rural wire theory is wrong, then the lowermost wire is CATV, and it does not deadend at this pole, but goes on in three directions, as does the rural wire, if that is what it is.
 
A long thesis, I know, but I hope this helps.
 
Daniel Lay Tel : xxx-xxx-xxxx

[Nemo492]

In the spirit of keeping an open mind.? The article mentions a guy telling you he worked five stories below ground, but you could find no records.?

Now, keep in mind, I watched a History Channel segment on Fort Knox and learned that you can also not obtain the building plans.? History Channel was only able to speculate on the building layout by looking at old photos of Fort Knox being built?and using eyewitness accounts of the interior layout.

Therefore, I wouldn't completely dismiss Isaac.

Keep up the good work.? It sounds like fun, wish I was retired.

Sherri

[Nemo492]

 Dear T.K. and Frankie,
 
I followed the 'drone' story in some detail and want to point your attention to one lead.
 
The two photos of a so called 'Mr Smith' gave both location and photos of another 'drone' photographed in very similar circumstances at Birmingham, Alabama. The street name can be seen and starts with McI...
 
This was supposed to have been photographed in May 2006.
Two photos included and I'm sure an internet search will yield the site on which I found it.
 
J.M. K.
Pretoria
South Africa

[Nemo492]

Hi
 
Saw article.
 
It is a sensor, of their unmanned vehicle technology.
Sorry I don't have a direct link to the government to show you the exact picture, but its Big Brother experimenting, testing among us.
 
Some of them also have the capacity to be what is called a non lethal Directed Energy Weapon  (DEW)of electromagnetic energy, extremely low frequencies and/or pulses, Ulta high frequencies and/or pulses, UV, IR
sensors and arrays of their coined term EXOTIC WEAPONS.

[Headek]

11August lui a proposé D-103 et quelques variantes...

D'après un pole trouvé sur le site de PG&E , 11august proposait effectivement 0103 ou 8103.

Les plaques semblent contenir uniquement des chiffres et pas de lettres.
 
(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9190/yellowtagspgejt9.jpg)

Si cette personne semble être en mesure de retrouver le pôle d'après les 4 chiffres,ça devrais aller vite maintenant.

En considérant qu'il n'y ai pas de variante de plaque et qu'il y a bien 4 chiffres sur tous les poteaux du même type ,par élimination visuelle :

(petit retraitement)
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7134/copiedeimage3il9.jpg)

0103(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5907/okzm3.jpg)
1103(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8256/uniredcrosshi1.gif)
2103(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8256/uniredcrosshi1.gif)
3103(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8256/uniredcrosshi1.gif)
4103(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8256/uniredcrosshi1.gif)
5103(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8256/uniredcrosshi1.gif)
6103(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5907/okzm3.jpg)
7103(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8256/uniredcrosshi1.gif)
8103(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5907/okzm3.jpg)
9103(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8256/uniredcrosshi1.gif)

[Nemo492]

dear tk davies
if you look at the wires there are 3 or 4 power off takes. there is no carry on.
which would probably be at the end of this line ie:- the end of a road with 3 or 4 houses there.
end of power lines end of houses. just a thought .
keep looking
alan h

[Diouf]

Réponse#2

 Je suis un ancien employé de la société Bell South. Je ne peux en être certain , mais le câble du bas semble être ce que la société appelle ''le câble campagne ''. C'était utilisé dans les coins reculés dont l'économie ne suffisait pas à justifier le câblage. Mais il y a un câble téléphonique visible, donc si c'est un câble '' campagnard '' c'est le début de la ligne. Demandez à d'anciens employés des compagnies de téléphone dans le voisinage si on utilise encore ce genre de câbles dans le coin, c'est là que je chercherais. Posez la question principalement aux ouvriers de maintenance et dépanneurs de câbles.Ils seraient les plus à même de connaître la date limite d'utilisation de ce câble et si il est toujours utilisé.

Réponse #4

Gardons l'esprit ouvert? L'article mentionne une personne vous disant avoir travaillé dans un sous sol au niveau -5, mais que vous n'en aviez aucune preuve?
Et bien, sachez que j'ai vu sur History Channel un reportage sur Fort Knox et j'ai appris qu'il est impossible d'obtenir les plans de l'immeuble. History Channel ne pouvait que faire des spéculations  sur les plans du batiment en regardant de vieilles photographies prises lors de la construction de Fort Knox, et en utilisant les descriptions de témoins oculaires pour la disposition intérieure.
Par conséquent,je n'écarterais pas complètement Isaac.
Continuez ce boulot super, ça a l'air sympa,  vivement que je sois à la retraite.
Sherri

Réponse#5

Chers T.K et Frankie
J'ai suivi l'histoire des drones en détail et voudrais attirer votre attention vers un indice.
Les 2 photos d'un soi-disant Mr. Smith donnent le lieu et le photo d'un autre drone, photographié dans des circonstances semblables à Birmingham, Alabama. On peut voir le nom de la rue qui commence par: McI...
La photo a été prise soi-disant en mai 2006.
voici 2 photos et je suis sûr qu'une recherche internet donnera le site sur lequel je les ai trouvées.
J.M.K, Prétoria

Réponse#6

Vu l'article.
C'est une sonde, qui vient de leur technologie de véhicules aériens sans pilote.
Désolé, je n'ai pas de lien direct du gouvernement pour vous montrer la photo exacte, mais c'est  une expérience de BigBrother qui fait ses essais parmi nous.
Certaines d'entre elles peuvent aussi être ce qu'on appelle une arme à énergie électro-magnétique,  dirigée non mortelle, d'extrêmement basses fréquences et /ou impulsions, Ultra hautes fréquences et/ou impulsions, UV, IR
Un ensemble de sondes astucieusement nommées: Armes Exotiques.

[Nemo492]

Providing any of the pictures are not a hoax (particularly the ones from Capitola and Big Basin), I would be looking at the sizable and largely underground Lockheed-Martin facility - once used to assemble fissile triggers for the Poseidon, and expanded in recent years - which is at the top end of Empire Grade Road near Big Basin Park.
You can see the above-ground portions on Google Maps (they have basically hollowed out a prominence known locally as Eagle Mountain, one of the highest peaks in Santa Cruz County).
This information is correct - I've known about this place for almost forty years. Its existence is no secret - various peace groups periodically held demonstrations and civil disobedience actions at the gates in previous decades.

--Sincerely, M.P.P.

[Nemo492]

The 'D-103' is the riser cutout number. PG&E has lists of each cutout location.Also the 'D' designates the delta distrct in the valley.
Your pole is an angle pole with small primary wire possibly #6 solid copper or #4 ACSR aluminum wire, with a 200 amp primary riser.
Hope this helps. M.

[Nemo492]

Rajman's power pole: The road lamp, edge of house and one
or more Ficus trees, besides fir trees, seem to be close together.
All these may be looked for near a 135 degree turn in the road
(as the wires suggest), of which there may be only a few in Capitola.
Ficus trees grow better near rivers, so maybe consider the riverside
locations first.

M. Kriek

[Nemo492]

Encore un spécialiste des poteaux électriques :

Gentlemen,
I'm sure that I am not the first but I will offer to you what I see on your utility pole. I have worked in the electric utility industry for thirty years both as a journeyman lineman and as a crew supervisor, here on the East Coast for Jersey Central Power & Light.

You are correct there is one guy, it has two glass breakers (insulators). As the guy comes to the ground on the left side of picture there is not a roadway. Therefore any roadway or intersection would have to be on the "object" side of the pole.

The large black trunk lines w/metal interface running down the pole are underground trunk lines, therefore your local telephone company has underground lines in the area.

The double arm flat construction (top of pole) appears to be a 10 foot arm. If you could tell how many holes are drilled through the crossarm this could help define it's actual dimension.

The single cross arm appears to have what we call cutouts, (fuse holders), although the enlarge option wasn't "big" enough to tell for sure, I think I see terminators at the bottom of these cutouts. This would incline me to think that hidden behind the pole runs a underground riser pipe. That would run down the length of the pole. This would also support the telephone underground line. You have two choices here as it is three phases it is a large underground rural development. Or it feeds a commerical customer such as a store or factory. I would guess the later as there are clearly overhead secondary lines (we call triplex), this is the 120/240 that comes into our homes. It also supports your information of being outside a residence. The larger insulators indicate a distribution system that could be 17.2 or 34.5 kv, it could also be near the coast the bigger insulators to avoid tracking of salt buildup.

The only last bit of advise I can offer is that your pole could possibly be at an intersection that stops overhead lines and goes to underground or it  is at a "T" intersection as the secondary lines branch off to the right as well as straight through. Your transformer is nearby one or two poles away.
Most utilities use a outage system such as GE Network solutions, Power ON. In such systems the identification # (D-103) could help. As with all utilities there are probably multiple duplicates. But the one with fuses should be more unique as well as identify the substation it serves. If you know this you can determine a specific area by the circuit that serves these fuses. Then to find your pole would just be a bit of good detective work!

Good Luck.
Regards,
E.P.

[Nemo492]

Rajman's power pole : The road lamp, edge of house and one
or more Ficus trees, besides fir trees, seem to be close together.
All these may be looked for near a 135 degree turn in the road
(as the wires suggest), of which there may be only a few in Capitola.
Ficus trees grow better near rivers, so maybe consider the riverside
locations first.